{"id":97,"date":"2005-11-07T18:27:19","date_gmt":"2005-11-08T01:27:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nicholasgoodman.com\/bt\/blog\/?p=97"},"modified":"2005-11-07T18:27:19","modified_gmt":"2005-11-08T01:27:19","slug":"ingres-sails-from-computer-associates","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.nicholasgoodman.com\/bt\/blog\/2005\/11\/07\/ingres-sails-from-computer-associates\/","title":{"rendered":"Ingres sails from Computer Associates"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve just started playing with Ingres recently (last 12 months).  It&#8217;s a powerful DBMS that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eweek.com\/article2\/0,1759,1599395,00.asp\">was released under an Open Source license last year<\/a>.  From what I gather about the history of the database it has been kind of a &#8220;hot potato&#8221; being <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ingres\">passed from university to company to company to company<\/a>, etc.<\/p>\n<p>Feature for feature Ingres appears to be the most advanced Open Source database available.  However, since it has been released under the <a href=\"http:\/\/www3.ca.com\/Solutions\/Collateral.asp?CID=61384\">CATOSL<\/a> it has not resembled a community driven OSS project.  There is still no public access to the source code repository, and as far as I know, there has not been source contributions from anyone outside of CA.  The <a href=\"http:\/\/www3.ca.com\/Solutions\/Collateral.asp?CID=61384\">CATOSL<\/a> is a &#8220;funny&#8221; OSI approved license that I think also hinders the uptake of Ingres.<\/p>\n<p>However, all that <i>could<\/i> change, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ingres.com\/news%20and%20events\/press%20releases\/ingres%20divestiture\/\">starting today<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>A <a href=\"http:\/\/www.garnetthelfrich.com\/\">venture capital firm<\/a> has purchased &#8220;Ingres&#8221; from CA and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ingres.com\">launched a company<\/a> focusing entirely on the Open Source database.  This company has an opportunity to capitalize on a starting point most OSS projects could only dream of (starting with a product that is deployed with mission critical applications at more than 5000 customer sites).  That&#8217;s just where they start though&#8230; their future must include turning Ingres into a full scale Open Source project and community.  This means public discussion forums, public source code control, welcome third party contributors, peer to peer information sharing, user based support, etc.  I think Ingres (company and project) would also be <b>VERY<\/b> well served to trade the off color CATOSL license for a commercial friendly OSI approved license.<\/p>\n<p>Welcome <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ingres.com\/\">Ingres, Inc<\/a>. to the marketplace!  It&#8217;s an interesting one with Oracle, Microsoft, and IBM all providing &#8220;free&#8221; versions of their DB now and passionate communities in the MySQL and PostGres projects.<\/p>\n<p>As a die hard Oracle consultant I need much more information to draw conclusions about Ingres&#8230; I&#8217;ve been in touch with CA and Ingres, Inc.  I hope to provide more information and a more detailed evaluation as time permits.  Stay tuned for more!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve just started playing with Ingres recently (last 12 months). It&#8217;s a powerful DBMS that was released under an Open Source license last year. From what I gather about the history of the database it has been kind of a &#8220;hot potato&#8221; being passed from university to company to company to company, etc. Feature for [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[6],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.nicholasgoodman.com\/bt\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/97"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.nicholasgoodman.com\/bt\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.nicholasgoodman.com\/bt\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.nicholasgoodman.com\/bt\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.nicholasgoodman.com\/bt\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=97"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.nicholasgoodman.com\/bt\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/97\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.nicholasgoodman.com\/bt\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=97"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.nicholasgoodman.com\/bt\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=97"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.nicholasgoodman.com\/bt\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=97"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}